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Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

I wonder why there is NO SECOND bed on any of the Wonder models?  None of the Wonders can seatbelt 4 and sleep 4, while the equivalent Unity models can seatbelt 4 and sleep 4.  Why is that?  The floor plans look the same to me on both the Unity and Wonder.

For example, when I look at the floor plan and the Youtube video of the Unity Rear Lounge (RL), I see that the two front side seats have belts and they can be turned into a SECOND bed.  The Wonder Rear Lounge looks the same, but cannot seem to be configurable into a bed ...

Can Leisure Vans seatbelt 4 and sleep 4 on the Wonders?

Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #1
It’s a weight issue & space & holding tank capacities.
I don’t know of any Unities that sleep 4.
Under no circumstances can  I envision 4 people living in out Wonder, or even 3, or two and 2 large dogs!
Harry
Tempe, Az
2019 Wonder FTB
Toad 2007 Honda Fit

Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #2
Maybe I'm not understanding your question, but both the Wonder RTB and FTB have 2 beds, since the "TB" means Twin Beds.  If you're asking for 2 large beds, then you're correct....

Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #3
Maybe I'm not understanding your question, but both the Wonder RTB and FTB have 2 beds, since the "TB" means Twin Beds.  If you're asking for 2 large beds, then you're correct....

Sorry, let me clarify.  When I said a "second" bed, I meant a second sleeping area.  Obviously I don't mean the second bed of the RTB since it's a "twin bed".  I use the example of the RL floor plan.  In the Unity RL, you have the Murphy bed in the rear lounge.  So that's ONE bedroom area.  In the Unity RL, you can also configure the front side seats to make it a SECOND bedroom area.  So that's TWO sleeping areas altogether.  In the video, you can see Dean demo-ing it.
But in the same RL floor plan of the Wonder, there is NO SECOND SLEEPING area in the front. (and no seatbelts for the front side seats).  I wonder why Leisure Vans did not build it for the Wonder ?




Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #4
I don’t know of any Unities that sleep 4.

The unity CB and RL have 4 seatbelts and can sleep 4.  In the CB the back corner is a corner bed and the dinette folds down into another bed, each of which can sleep 2. For the RL the front lounge/dinette area turns into a bed, which you can't do on the Wonder RL. The TB has seatbelts for 4 but sleeping for 2.

Why the Wonders all only have seating and sleeping for 2 I don't know. I think they hold some options back from the Wonder to justify the Unity's higher price.

Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #5
It has to do with the amount that the Wonder is legally able to carry after the water and other tanks are full.  In the diesel LTV's they can carry much more weight.  I was told that the Wonder can only carry 650 pounds onboard with full tanks, a driver and passenger.  That means that if you got 2 more passengers and they weighed in total 400 pounds, you would most certainly go over the legal weight limit.  That's why they don't have seatbelts or an extra bed.  I was told that directly from LTV.

Re: Second bed, sleeps 4 on Wonder?

Reply #6
Which model of Wonder?  There are 4 now.
My 2019 WFTB has a combined weight of occupants and cargo of 1657 lbs.  it can tow 3000 lbs.
They are all different depending on options.
Harry
Tempe, Az
2019 Wonder FTB
Toad 2007 Honda Fit